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Info-Mac Digest             Tue, 26 Oct 93       Volume 11 : Issue 212

Today's Topics:

      [*] BBEdit Updater: 2.5.1 to 2.5.2 -repost-
      [*] BBEdit Updater: 2.5 to 2.5.2 -repost-
      [*] MacMiNT Release
      [*] Mac Screensaver/After Dark FAQ v1.6
      [*] Maelstrom 1.3.2
      [*] Maelstrom 1.3.2 Updater
      [*] Shutdown FX 1.1 (INIT)
      [*] Shutdown FX 1.1 (source code)
      [*] Thermal Analysis on Macintosh (Summary)
      [*] this is the demo of.... Metro2.44.sea.hqx
      [*] tune-finder-14-hc.hqx
      [*] TypeEdit.cpt.hqx
      [*] WrapScreen 1.3
      (A) hyph.off in QXP / (A) no HD icon
      (Q) Apple A/UX on Higher Ed Purchase Prog?
      (Q) Floppy compare utility
      (Q) PM 5.0 Font Problem
      1984 Macintosh commercial
      [Q] serial-port woe
      Advice on Small Networks
      AOL Address
      A Postscript Emulator
      AppleScript archive area?
      Are there other programs like SendPS?
      AT&T Gateway
      Attack based on words with like sounds?
      CD ROM and filesharing
      Converting HC Stax to Apps...
      copy and paste
      CTB 1.1 library with Think C 6.0.1?
      Damaged Font File
      Dead HD
      Disklock Problems (Q)
      Dylan's defence
      Help with Corrupted SUM backup archive (c.1990)
      Hewlett Packard ScanJet
      Info-Mac mailing list (C)
      InterSLIP configuration (A)
      Is stylewriter ink waterproof (A)
      Laserwriter 8.1.1
      LaserWriter NTR - Autoswitch (A)
      LineLink 14.4
      LineLink modem
      List of Macs?
      LW 8 (A)
      Mac linear algebra software
      Mac Memory Guide (Q)
      MACSERVE is now being updated regularly
      Moving Files Remotely, How?
      Myers-Briggs parlour game
      NCSA Telnet 2.5 and control characters?
      Pesky Sound Manager 3
      Please Upload...
      Price infor for Quadra 610
      QuickTime Recorder?
      regarding language translators
      registering signatures by E-mail
      Saturday Night Live McIntosh "Post-It Note" Commercial. (Q)
      Scrabble on a Mac (Q)
      SpeedyFinder7 - another conflict
      Stylewriter II defaults
      StyleWriter II networking
      Text file pager for Mac (Q)
      Time tracking/billing response
      Time tracking response
      Translating Apple II files/diskettes
      TT Palatino font
      Typesetting
      Typesetting (C)
      Unethical Computers
      What is a "Bad F-Line Error"
      Why fonts don't print in PageMaker
      WordPerfect 3.0 vs. Word 5.1
      Word watermark

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 08:08:19 -0400
From: bbedit@world.std.com (Bare-Bones Software)
Subject: [*] BBEdit Updater: 2.5.1 to 2.5.2 -repost-

The previously submitted BinHex of this 2.5.2 to 2.5.2 updater
was somehow smashed during upload; here is a corrected copy.
(If it's not too much trouble, please substitute the abstract
>From the previous posting - thanks).
[How can I refuse when someone says "thanks?" -- isl]

The attached BinHex file contains a StuffIt Deluxe archive which in
turn contains an updater which will update the 2.5.1 release of BBEdit
into the current 2.5.2 revision. (If you have the original 2.5
release, do not use this updater; a separate one is being posted).

This updater is also available for anonymous FTP from world.std.com,
as /ftp/pub/bbedit/bbedit-251-to-252-update.hqx.

The updater cannot be used to turn a demo, freeware, or beta version
of BBEdit into the current 2.5.2 release.

Thanks for your continued support of BBEdit.

Bare-Bones Software                     Internet: bbedit@world.std.com
	Rich Siegel                             Patrick Woolsey
Principal Software Designer              Director of Quality Assurance

[Archived as /info-mac/text/bbedit-251-to-252-updt.hqx; 253K]

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 08:17:46 -0400
From: bbedit@world.std.com (Bare-Bones Software)
Subject: [*] BBEdit Updater: 2.5 to 2.5.2 -repost-

Same here (I don't know what happened; the copy I uploaded was good,
but it got smashed in transit).

[Previous announcement]
The attached BinHex file contains a StuffIt Deluxe archive which in
turn contains an updater which will update the original 2.5 release of
BBEdit into the current 2.5.2 revision. (If you have version 2.5.1, do
not use this updater; a separate one is being posted).

This updater is also available for anonymous FTP from world.std.com,
as /ftp/pub/bbedit/bbedit-25-to-252-update.hqx.

The updater cannot be used to turn a demo, freeware, or beta version
of BBEdit into the current 2.5.2 release.

Thanks for your continued support of BBEdit.

Bare-Bones Software                     Internet: bbedit@world.std.com
	Rich Siegel                             Patrick Woolsey
Principal Software Designer              Director of
 Quality Assurance

[Archived as /info-mac/text/bbedit-25-to-252-updt.hqx; 271K]

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 12:02:52 PDT
From: brad@tazboy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Brad Pickering)
Subject: [*] MacMiNT Release

Below is the latest release of MacMiNT.  I believe it is finally
ready for general use.  There are still bugs, but they seem to be
rare and don't seem to be catastrophic.  Still, MacMiNT should be
used at your own risk.

MacMiNT is a preemptive multitasking OS that runs as a process under
the Mac OS.  It is a port of MiNT 0.95 from the Atari ST.  MiNT
extends the Atari OS to support many UNIX like features.  Many UNIX
tools have been ported to MiNT, including gcc (v2.4.5), make, tcsh,
and emacs.

MacMiNT should be able to run on anything from a MacPlus with 2M ram
and 3M disk space, on up to a Quadra with a ton of ram and a ton of
disk space.  But, I wouldn't bother with anything less than a MacII
with 8M ram and 15M disk space.  The default installation requires 5M
free ram and 12M free disk space.  If you don't use the default
installation you could probably get away with a lot less ram and a lot
less disk space.

There is little to no documentation on MacMiNT.  To use MacMiNT you
should already be familiar with UNIX, or you should be prepared to do
a lot of searching for documentation.

MacMiNT is available at: suniams1.statistik.tu-muenchen.de in
/pub/mac/MacMiNT/MacMiNT.13October93, nic.switch.ch in
/software/mac/src/macmint, and archive.cis.ohio-state.edu in
/pub/mac-unix/macmint.

The distribution contains only the minimum files needed to get
started.  Several other packages will have to be retrieved from the
network before doing a full installation.

Brad Pickering
brad@tazboy.jpl.nasa.gov

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/mac-mint.hqx; 1576K]

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 21:12:16 -0500
From: Lloyd Wood <L.H.Wood@lut.ac.uk>
Subject: [*] Mac Screensaver/After Dark FAQ v1.6

Here's the latest version of the Mac Screensaver/After Dark FAQ - v1.6.

Since this FAQ tries to be all things to all screensaver users, I'd
be grateful if you could put a copy (AfterDarkFAQ16) wherever you keep
shareware After Dark modules, and another copy, or an alias (ScreensaverFAQ16)
wherever you keep other standalone screensavers. That way, the entire
audience it's aimed at gets to see it.

Thanks,

Lloyd Wood
L.H.Wood@lut.ac.uk
FAQ author.

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/ad/ad-faq-16.txt; 72K]

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 2:56:44 PDT
From: "Derek Chee" <DCHEE@uci.edu>
Subject: [*] Maelstrom 1.3.2

A brand new version of Andrew Welch's Maelstrom, v1.3.2.  His
description follows:

-- Derek

Maelstrom received four mice from MacWorld.  Maelstrom won the
Shareware Industry Award for Best Mac Program, 1993.  Maelstrom won
MacUser's 1993 Shareware/Entertainment Software Award.

Find out what it's all about: Maelstrom is a 256 color, fast-paced,
nerve-wracking arcade game that is sure to leave blisters on your
fingers.

Ambrosia Software, Inc. is also running a Maelstrom High Score
Contest; details are included with the game.

Version 1.3.2 -- Released 10/93

     -- Fixed a bug that would cause Maelstrom to display colors
incorrectly if you had a multiple monitor system, and were playing
Maelstrom on a monitor that is not the main monitor AND changed the
sound volume right before you started playing the game.

     -- With many thanks to Radius Developer Services, Maelstrom now
*really* does work with the Radius Pivot monitor, and other
configurations with non-standard video.

     -- Spiffed up the registration process, and added support for
sending credit card orders in via electronic mail.

     -- Fixed a bug that would cause Maelstrom to crash if you tried
to play it on a non-color Macintosh.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/arc/maelstrom-132.hqx; 1053K]

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 2:53:42 PDT
From: "Derek Chee" <DCHEE@uci.edu>
Subject: [*] Maelstrom 1.3.2 Updater

The updater to Maelstrom v1.3.2 from Andrew Welch.  His description
follows:

-- Derek

This updater only works if you already have Maelstrom 1.3 or later; if
you have an earlier version of Maelstrom, you need to download the
complete Maelstrom 1.3.2 package.

This updater brings Maelstrom 1.3.x up to Maelstrom 1.3.2, the latest
version which contains a few minor bug fixes.  Updating is
recommended, but not essential.

Version 1.3.2 -- Released 10/93

     -- Fixed a bug that would cause Maelstrom to display colors
incorrectly if you had a multiple monitor system, and were playing
Maelstrom on a monitor that is not the main monitor AND changed the
sound volume right before you started playing the game.

     -- With many thanks to Radius Developer Services, Maelstrom now
*really* does work with the Radius Pivot monitor, and other
configurations with non-standard video.

     -- Spiffed up the registration process, and added support for
sending credit card orders in via electronic mail.

     -- Fixed a bug that would cause Maelstrom to crash if you tried
to play it on a non-color Macintosh.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/arc/maelstrom-13x-to-132-updt.hqx; 81K]

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1993 22:16:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: f8dy@netaxs.netaxs.com (Mark Pilgrim)
Subject: [*] Shutdown FX 1.1 (INIT)

Shutdown FX is a simple INIT which will, at shutdown, clear the Mac
screen with an interesting graphic effect.  It picks randomly from 8
of the effects that are included in MSG Demo.  (Note that the MSG Demo
is NOT required to use Shutdown FX.  This INIT will work on its own; it
just reuses some of the same code as MSG Demo.)

Shutdown FX should work on any Macintosh under any system.  The only
known flaw is that on systems with multiple monitors, only the main
monitor (the one with the menu bar) is cleared; all other monitors
are left untouched.  If you find any other bugs, or if you have any
comments, please e-mail the author at f8dy@netaxs.com (Mark Pilgrim).

Version 1.1 fixes a bug when shutting down with applications still
running.  (Sometimes only part of the screen was wiped to black.)

This INIT is free; there is no shareware fee.  This archive contains
only the INIT itself.  Complete source code is available and will be
uploaded to sumex-aim.stanford.edu, or e-mail the author requesting a
copy.

Shutdown FX is copyright 1993 by Mark Pilgrim, MerriMac Software Group.

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/shutdown-fx-11.hqx; 9K]

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1993 22:17:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: f8dy@netaxs.netaxs.com (Mark Pilgrim)
Subject: [*] Shutdown FX 1.1 (source code)

Shutdown FX is a simple INIT which will, at shutdown, clear the Mac
screen with an interesting graphic effect.  It picks randomly from 8
of the effects that are included in MSG Demo.  (Note that the MSG Demo
is NOT required to use Shutdown FX.  This INIT will work on its own; it
just reuses some of the same code as MSG Demo.)

Shutdown FX should work on any Macintosh under any system.  The only
known flaw is that on systems with multiple monitors, only the main
monitor (the one with the menu bar) is cleared; all other monitors
are left untouched.  If you find any other bugs, or if you have any
comments, please e-mail the author at f8dy@netaxs.com (Mark Pilgrim).

Version 1.1 fixes a bug when shutting down with applications still
running.  (Sometimes only part of the screen was wiped to black.)

THIS ARCHIVE CONTAINS COMPLETE THINK C 6.0 SOURCE CODE.  The INIT
itself is available from sumex-aim.stanford.edu, or e-mail the author
requesting a copy.  This source code is free for non-commercial use,
but please read the notice in each file for details.

Shutdown FX is copyright 1993 by Mark Pilgrim, MerriMac Software Group.

[Archived as /info-mac/dev/src/shutdown-fx-11-c.hqx; 30K]

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 13:47 +0100 (MET)
From: "Hans de Wolf - FSS/PSD - +31-20-605 6159 - hw23316@NLR.NL"
<HW23316%S41550@SYSF>
Subject: [*] Thermal Analysis on Macintosh (Summary)

This message contains a summary of answers I got on my question about
thermal analysis software for the Macintosh.

I would like to thank:

Tom Coradeschi      - tcora@Pica.Army.Mil
Mark Lankton        - lankton@pisces.colorado.edu
Jim Westfall        - westfall@pisces.colorado.edu
Matt X. Herbison    - mxh160@psu.edu

My original question was:

>A simple question:
>does somebody know if there is thermal analysis software available on
>the Macintosh? With thermal analysis software I mean a program which
>calculates temperatures and heat flows for 'nodes',from a mathematical
>model. For insiders, something like the SINDA (used in USA) or ESATAN
>(used in Europe) software.
>Because of the specialistic nature of this question, please reply by
>e-mail. I will summarize for the net.

[Archived as /info-mac/info/nms/thermal-analysis.txt; 10K]

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 15:06:07 -0300 (ADT)
From: TSANDESON@mta.ca
Subject: [*] this is the demo of.... Metro2.44.sea.hqx

	Next is a demo of Jeremy Sagans..........Metro V2.44 DEMO.
	This is to be put in the directory   mac/sound/midi, if you have any
questions about the program e-mail him at   jes15@cornell.edu.

[Please send the announcement and the file in the same message,
 if possible.  Thanks.  -isl]

	Tony
	Tsandeson@macc2.mta.ca

[Archived as /info-mac/snd/util/metro-244.hqx; 610K]

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 14:21:36 PDT
From: davidh@ella.mills.edu (David Hartmann)
Subject: [*] tune-finder-14-hc.hqx

This is an update to a file in the Non-Mac Stuff directory.
TuneFinder 1.4. Please replace the outdated version currently in the
archives.

A hypercard stack that contains a database of thousands of classical
pieces indexed by their melodies.

Submitted on behalf of the author. Shareware. Compacted/binhexed.
Roughly 450K compressed.

[Archived as /info-mac/info/nms/tune-finder-14-hc.hqx; 398K]

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 93 01:16:33 PDT
From: buccolm@CSOS.ORST.EDU (Arg0n)
Subject: [*] TypeEdit.cpt.hqx

This is a newer version of TypeEdit. A copy I sent about a day ago has a
major bug. It should be replaced by this. TypeEdit should go in the util
directory.

TypeEdit was written to automate and speed-up the process of changing
filetypes.
This is often nessesary to do with file that you have downloaded.
TypeEdit has a quick and easy to use interface.

[Archived as /info-mac/disk/type-edit.hqx; 6K]

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 10:39:47 -0800
From: aubourg@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Eric Aubourg)
Subject: [*] WrapScreen 1.3

WrapScreen is a small control panel that allows the mouse for instance to
exit on the right of the screen and reenter on the left. You can choose to
wrap the screen horizontally, vertically, or both, and not to wrap in
corners.

WrapScreen is now fully compatible with multiple screens systems.

Shareware, pay what you want

Eric Aubourg

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/wrap-screen-13.hqx; 10K]

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 22:43:53 -0200
From: smrdsouz@cat.cce.usp.br (Sandra Maria Ribeiro de  Souza)
Subject: (A) hyph.off in QXP / (A) no HD icon

Hello from Brazil!

Here are aswers for two questions I've seen on info-mac:

> Is there any way of turning hyphenation completely off in Quark?

Using Portuguese with Quark 3.1 and not owning a Portuguese dictionary,
I too had the need for turning off hyphenation, so I hunted around those
option screens until I came up with this:

Select H&J from the Edit menu
Select 'standard' (or any other) from the list
Click Edit
Uncheck the 'auto hyphenation' box

> ...make disappear the icon of the startup disk drive?

I managed to make my HD icon disappear with ResEdit. My icon is a custom
one (pasted through the sys 7 Get Info box). I dont know if this method
will work with a standard icon, but you can always paste a custom one on
top of it.

Open ResEdit and find a file named 'icon' on the root level of your HD.
Open this file and double click on any of the icon resources.
On the editing window that appears, delete the icon mask.
Save changes and quit.
Rebuild the Desktop file
Voila' - no HD icon!

Hope these help!

Tom Bojarczuk (not Sandra, I'm only using her account!)
Sao Paulo, Brazil
(t0m or t0mek on global irc, mainly in the #brasil or #polska channels.)

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 16:05:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joshua Hart -- A Forensic Chemist (to be) at Large!"
<STUHART@ACS.EKU.EDU>
Subject: (Q) Apple A/UX on Higher Ed Purchase Prog?

Hi all!
      I recently ordered a Mac Quadra 650 8/500 from the apple Via the HEP II
program. In that order I listed A/UX CD rom product as one of the things I
wanted to order.
      I had found the Product code in an older listing of the Hi Ed List,
and wrote it down, figuring that the worst thing that could happen was that
the price would go down (was listed at ~$450.00). Well, I called the Apple
people who deal with the Individual Purchase items (800-877-4433) and they
told me that A/UX was not available through them. Apple does not carry their
own A/UX OS?
      I was told I might have to go out and by it commerically. Anyone know
if:
      (a) The HEP people really do sell A/UX and the representative just could
	  not find it in her computer for some reason?
      (b) Where can I buy A/UX on CD Rom?
      (c) What is a ballpark price for the CD rom product?

     Thanks in advance! :)
	   Joshua
	   <stuhart@acs.eku.edu>
	   <stuhart@eku.bitnet>

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 10:05:45 TZ
From: Deepak Seth <deepaks@microsoft.com>
Subject: (Q) Floppy compare utility

Hi,

I am looking for a utiltiy that will do a Disk compare.  I need
something that will check one floppy with another an print out a list
of files or sectors that are different.
Hopefully, this tool can also be scripted via MPW or Applescript.
This tool should also be stable on System 7.x
Please send me directions on where to find it.

thanks,

deepaks@microsoft.com

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 16:20:44 -0400
From: "Tom Scott" <Tom_Scott@qmengr.mail.cornell.edu>
Subject: (Q) PM 5.0 Font Problem

     (Q) PM 5.0 Font Problem
The following is a message sent to me by one of my users:

  "As far as I can tell, PageMaker 5.0 has a bug that causes it to crash
   when asked to download certain fonts.

   One possible work-around would be to manually download the font.
   PageMaker 5.0 ships with the LaserWriter 8.0 print driver (so there's
   no longer a choice of the Aldus or Apple driver), and I don't have a
   LaserWriter font utility that will recognize the 8.0 driver.

   Can you give me a utility for downloading fonts that would be
   compatible with the 8.0 driver? Thanks.

   BTW, I can download and print the same document just fine from
   PageMaker 4.2, which led to my conclusion that it's a PM 5.0 bug."

Can anyone offer an explanation or a solution?  TIA!


Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 22:25:32 -0400
From: Dave Bachmann <wk01200@worldlink.com>
Subject: 1984 Macintosh commercial

By the way, at the Computer Museum in Boston, they have a bunch of video
clips, including the 1984 commercial.

dave

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 00:31:45 -0400
From: "David L. Elliott" <delliott@src.umd.edu>
Subject: [Q] serial-port woe

My IIci, for no reason I can think of, has stopped printing (claims the
StyeWriter is not there... but it is, the cable buzzes out OK, and the
printer self-check works). The communication programs can't get to the
modem (Kermit and Zterm both lock up). Tattletale lists the ports with
the usual info.   To get out of the comm programs I had to use the
programmers' switch; the interrupt location was in vsync_wait someplace.
This happens with two different sets of system 7.1 software, and with
all extensions (except StyleWriter) off. Chooser chooses OK.
Am I stuck with buying a motherboard? Can the serial chip be replaced?

Please email to delliott@src.umd.edu,
since there is so much traffic on this newsgroup.

David


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Date: 25 Oct 93 15:03:40 EDT
From: grunwald@uncvx1.oit.unc.edu
Subject: Advice on Small Networks

I would appreciate some advice on setting up a small Mac network. Please
forgive my niavete about this sort of thing - any references to FAQs that I
should be reading would be much appreciated.

WHAT WE ARE: We are a small, non-profit community center located in a poor,
inner-city neighborhood in Durham, NC. We provide educational and recreational
opportunities to disadvantaged youth, including after-school activities, job
training, drug/pregnancy counseling, etc. We have a small paid staff in a
small
facility and, of course, almost no money.

WHAT WE WANT: We would like to have a Mac-based cluster of computers for the
kids to use. They would be using educational/recreational software, typing
programs and other software for job skills, etc. Additionally, we want to use
a
Mac to run the everyday business of the center.

WHAT WE HAVE: We have a small grant which will fund the purchase of a single
respectable desk-top setup - something like a Centris 610 and laser printer.
We
intend for this to be primarily used by adults for business stuff.
Additionally, we have 2 Mac Pluses (one with hard disk), 2 512K's, and an
Imagewriter. These items have come as donations and we anticipate more of the
same. (This is an advertisement, by the way: If you know of any old Mac
systems
or peripherals that can be donated to a worthwhile 501c-3 tax deductable
charity, PLEASE get in touch!).

WHAT I WANT TO KNOW: Is there an inexpensive and worthwhile way to take
advantage of the higher-end Mac (and laser printer) to provide the kids with
the best resources and performance on the lower-end macs? Is it worth setting
up an AppleTalk (or other) network? Specifically:
- What is the minimum system/ram/hard disk configuration for the "terminals"?
- What is the optimum configuration for the "server"?
- Can the server provide processing power as well as file sharing?
- Is there cheap software/hardware other than Apple Talk? (no, we can't afford
ethernet)
- Any ideas for sources of donated macs or small hard disks?


Thanks in advance for any suggestions or ideas. Please reply by e-mail, as I
don't browse this newsgroup very often.

Ron Grunwald       [grunwald@med.unc.edu]
for the West End Community Center
Durham, NC
(919) 688-4301

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 08:54:45 -0600
From: brousseau%aaaca1@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com (Robert Brousseau)
Subject: AOL Address

Greetings,

Mack <ZU01988%UABDPO.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU> writes:

>I know how to mail to aol, but what if the reciever has a space in his
>name?  Do I use a "_" or do I just put in the space?

You may keep the spaces or delete them. An underscore "_" could be
different name.

Here is my basis:
I looked up "Chi Chi", "ChiChi" and "Chi_Chi".

"Chi Chi" and "ChiChi" are synonymous.

"Chi_Chi" does not exist

Rob Brousseau
jambiste@aol.com,
brousseau@aaaca1.ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 20:57:48 -0500 (CDT)
From: Russell Cotton <rcotton@tenet.edu>
Subject: A Postscript Emulator

Hello,

I was wondering if there is a share/freeware (available on the internet)
that performs like ATM. I have a few postscript fonts, but a stylewriter
printer (QuickDraw) and would like to see those fonts printed smoothly.

Thanks
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ Russell Cotton <> rcotton@tenet.edu ~
~ Superintendent/Principal Garner ISD ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Date: 26 Oct 1993 02:55:51 GMT
From: jbuberel@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Jason L. Buberel)
Subject: AppleScript archive area?

Hey,

If you can answer anyone of the following questions, please e-mail me..

Is there any location/archive/site where I can find AppleScript extensions
(osax) or shareware scripts? ?

Is there a way to get the info-mac or umich people to create a little
directory for applescript related developments?

Please let me know,

Jason L. Buberel
Neuroscience Department
University of Illinois
jbuberel@uiuc.edu
?

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 17:03:55 -0500 (CDT)
From: Dan Lunderville <dan.d.lunderville@uwrf.edu>
Subject: Are there other programs like SendPS?

There is a utility named SendPS that was written several years ago by someone
at Adobe.  It was used to download Postscript over AppleTalk, such as sending
a
Postscript file to a printer.  The latest version seems to be v. 2.0.

This version of SendPS does not work with System 7.  Can anyone direct me to
an equivalent utility that is free, and works with System 7?  I know that this
can be done with Apple's LaserWriter Utility, but I can't use that.  I need
to give this utility to students, and LaserWriter Utility has several options
that students could really mess things up with.

I have searched ftp.adobe.com and I can't find a newer version of SendPS.
--

Dan Lunderville                      Email:      Dan.D.Lunderville@uwrf.edu

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 23:04:56 +1000
From: benzion%tmx.mhs.oz.au@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU (Rabbi Benzion Milecki)
Subject: AT&T Gateway

I need to write to someone who has a mailbox with AT&T. I know the mail-box
name "BENARZA" but have absolutely no idea of how to address a letter to
AT&T. Also how would he write to me. Any help appreciated.

Benzion Milecki

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 8:42:34 EDT
From: Claude Lapointe (ACISD) <lapoint@ARL.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Attack based on words with like sounds?

I can't resist:  In Info-Mac Digest V11 #209,
BRUCE.TROEN@med.umich.edu expresses a sentiment,
with which I agree, about a certain "Dylan the
Hippy Wabbit <d_spacey@icrf.icnet.uk>". Perhaps,
however, he would prefer the subject,
"Intel ad & ad hominem attack" rather than
"Intel ad & ad homonym attack".

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 03:09:08
From: Ben Squire <btsquire@leland.stanford.edu>
Subject: CD ROM and filesharing

Thanks to all that responded to my CD ROM problem.  I downloaded Unmountit
from
the sumex archives which I use now whenever a CD will not eject.  I would
highly
recommend this to anyone with a CD ROM who gets the error message "can't put
away disk because it is being shared."

Thanks again to everyone who responded.

Ben Squire

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 11:00:20 -0500 (EST)
From: 00bkpickeril@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Subject: Converting HC Stax to Apps...

> Subject: Converting HC Stax to Apps...
>
> I know I've read where hypercard stacks can be converted
> to Windoze executable files and perhaps to Mac standalone
> apps as well.  Would someone who may have experience or
> info about this please email me or post here?  TIA.
>
> --Brian Pickerill  <00bkpickeril@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu>


OK, I found my Heizer Software catalog (510) 943-7667, 800-888-7667 and
the info I needed.   (Thanks to those who emailed me about this.)
ConvertIt! ($200 US) does the Windoze ToolBook conversion. CompileIt!
($150 US) does stack compliation, though I think one still needs HC or
HC player unless you like to play around moving resources from place
to place without a license.  :-o

--Brian Pickerill  <00bkpickeril@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu>

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 12:31:44 +0100
From: vecoven@montefiore.ulg.ac.be (Vecoven Frederic)
Subject: copy and paste

Hello,

I have a small problem. When scanning images, (4bit color,
a few hundred kilobytes), I cannot copy the image on the
clipboard.

My question : is there a way (ResEdit or an util) to raise
the size of the clipboard ?

Thank you !
Frederic Vecoven (vecoven@montefiore.ulg.ac.be)

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 14:23:40 PDT
From: Bill Lipa <lipa@camis.stanford.edu>
Subject: CTB 1.1 library with Think C 6.0.1?

Does anyone know how to make a version of the CTB 1.1 library called
CommToolboxExtensions.o work with Think C 6.0.1? It is a .o file for MPW
that I originally converted for Think C 5. My converted file worked with
Think C 6, but when I applied the 6.0.1 update it no longer does! I get

undefined: CRMTOOLPREFLIGHT (CommToolboxExtensions.o)
undefined: CRMTOOLPOSTFLIGHT (CommToolboxExtensions.o)

and changing those entries to the usual case doesn't help.

Thanks for any advice,

Bill Lipa
lipa@camis.stanford.edu

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 12:32:20 -0600
From: courcoul@itesmcq1.qro.itesm.mx (Juan M. Courcoul)
Subject: Damaged Font File

"Dave Leiner" <leiner@mtv.gtegsc.com> writes:

>>... Well, if anyone sees Excel load
>>really slow, check out your font files by opening each one. The system will
>>tell you if one is damaged.
>
>Turns out, a damaged font file was also causing Filemaker Pro to crash
>during launch. One more symptom to watch out for.

Excellent advice. However, does anybody have a tool to do the font-check
quickly? Hand checking when you have close to 6MB in the Fonts folder is
not a viable idea, and Norton Utilities doesn't catch all the instances of
corruption.

If there is no such tool, could a kind developer consider such a
contribution for the Mac community ? This is a recurrent problem: I've had
the CarolesChunk font go bad on me two times now, requiring reinstallation.
In these cases, Norton only reported a "bad bundle bit", but never
mentioned that the contents of the file were also screwed up.

Thanks,

Juan

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 12:35 EDT
From: RICH FRIEDMAN <FRIEDMAN@mbcl.rutgers.edu>
Subject: Dead HD

Folks -
I quess I missed the ideas some of you have come up with for resurecting
dead internal HD's.  The HD on my SE-30 (orignal equipment) has died.  I
mean the light come on and nothing happens.  Eventually a ? comes up with
the poor thing telling me it ain't got no drive to boot from.  All the
utilitiues I've used come up with nothing.  VIF's that I created for such
an emergency tell me that the poor thing is just not responding.  I've
thought about opening up the computer and giving the drive a gentle whack,
but that seems just a little risky.

Any suggestions??

I seem to remember that the drive that were installed in the SE-30's had
a lubricant problem.  Did anything ever come out of that, a cure??

I am kind of resigned that I might have to replace the HD with a new HD.
La Cie is selling a Quantum ELS 170 MB for $200.  Any comments.  I'm
actually leaning to getting an external (pulling the old one looks pretty
complicated) and pulling the plug (literally) on the old one so the computer
won't look for the old one.  Any comments about that?

Anyone have experience replacing an HD in an SE-30?  Was it as hard as it
looks?  Any tricks?

Thanks. I know it's a lot of questions

Rich
Friedman@mbcl.rutgers.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 01:19:21 GMT
From: tp001b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Thomas Richard Parker)
Subject: Disklock Problems (Q)

I'm stumped...

I work at a computing center and have been asked by a friend to help with
something.  He has been told by Computer Equipment Services that he has
a software problem and by the Technical Assistants that he has a hardware
problem... so here it is.

He installed Disklock on his computer and used it for a few days with
Disklock.  Now, however he cannot boot and gets a sad mac with

00000006
0000000F

OR whatever the # of 0's are.

Anyone know what this means?

He now has to boot off a floppy.

I don't want or know if I can get in to format the drive, but obviously
I would like to get the info back off.  I have access to just about any
recovery program if I ask the right people to help me, so any suggestions
are welcome.  Thanks

Tom Parker
thpr_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 12:52:40 GMT
From: Dylan the Hippy Wabbit <d_spacey@icrf.icnet.uk>
Subject: Dylan's defence

Path: wheel!d_spacey
From: d_spacey@icrf.icnet.uk (Dylan the Hippy Wabbit)
Newsgroups: info-mac
Subject: Dylan's defence
Message-ID: <68215@icrf.icnet.uk>
Date: 26 Oct 93 12:52:25 GMT
Organization: Imperial Cancer Research Fund, London, UK
Lines: 37

Bruce Troen recently wrote that he found my comments distasteful.  At the risk
of boring too many people, I would like to answer his points.

>Hippy Wabbit (who doesn't give us the courtesy of leaving his real name)

Well I can only apologise for that.  It's a joke for those who know me, and in
the States you may not even have seen the children's TV program it refers to.
Sometimes I forget it's there, although with my e-mail address included I
could
never truly with-hold my name, could I?

>Hippy Wabbit chooses to attack Ken Linger as being childish and without a
>life.

I'll concede that the wording could be rather 'robust' for some, but the
opinions behind it I stand by.  I can't see any reason to elevate a machine to
the status of a religion, except when your livelihood depends on selling the
thing.  Such extreme brand loyalty I can only see as laughable at best.  Out
of
consideration for persons of restricted humour, I'll not describe what it is
at
worst.

>To insert that kind of language smacks of the pot calling the kettle black!

My original remark was:-

>>it's too childish even for me.

Ken Linger's piece actually invited flames, on the claim that he enjoys them.
That being the case, I sincerely hope that he found mine funnier than Bruce
Troen did.

If it's any consolation, my original piece went missing somewhere between the
moderators and my host system, so I guess somebody agrees with him.

	Yours

	Dave Spacey


------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 07:41:02 +0200
From: bnhirsch@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il (David L. Hirschberg)
Subject: Help with Corrupted SUM backup archive (c.1990)

Dear List,

I am totally frustrated with Symantic's customer non-support of their
products!  I have sent several letters asking for help and have received no
replies except from a guy in their language support deparment, who
forwarded my stuff to tech support, who never answered...

The reason I didn't write to Info-mac in the first place is that I am
frankly embarassed to tell anyone that I actually used a product like Sum
Back up in the first place.  It seemed like a good idea at the time.  I own
the software, I had a bunch of files I never use and wanted them out of the
way. Sum Backup works well for backup.  Trying to Resore seems to be
another matter though...


This is my original letter:
Hello,

I am having problems restoring some files that I archived in 1990 using Sum
Utilities version 2.1.

I am able to launch the program and set up the menu to restore.  The
program simply reads the directory then says how many files I have and says
it is finished with no files restored.

I would like to retrieve the files.  Do you have any suggestions or a
retrieval utility in case the archive is damaged.

I archived it with version 2.1
My serial number is: D.TX138.M

_____

If someone coult give Symantic a wake up call or help me directly I would
be most appreciative.

Thank you, David
bnhirsch@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il
011-972-834-4131 (fax)

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 07:30 GMT0
From: Pindar Infotek Ltd <pindar3@cix.compulink.co.uk>
Subject: Hewlett Packard ScanJet

>From Pindar user Ian McCall
Subject: _Hewlett Packard ScanJet
Hello.

There is a possibiity that I might be able to get hold of a
second-hand ScanJet, originally used with a PC. Obviously I'd like to
do this, but it wouldn't be all that much use to me if I couldn't get
it working on the Mac.

Is there any publically available scanner driver, preferable in the
form of a Photoshop plug-in of some kind?


Cheers,
       Ian



---
Please make 'Attn:<space>Ian McCall' the first line of your reply
(not the
subject) to ensure automatic forwarding to the correct Pindar user.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 03:27:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: "William P. Krauthammer" <F2EHG786@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
Subject: Info-Mac mailing list (C)

In Info-Mac Digest V11 #211, Gordon, of moderator (moderation? :-) fame,
writes:


[... I think a fair number of our subscribers would be angered if they
received
unsolicited (sp?) mail.  :) ...]

You are quite correct, and I, for one, appreciate your saying so publicly. If
indeed Mr. Chane is collecting an e-mailing list to send commercial junk
mail--and I don't know if he is or not, in all fairness--I hope he will think
(at least) twice.

--
William P. Krauthammer
f2ehg786@umiami.ir.miami.edu

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 12:32:35 -0600
From: courcoul@itesmcq1.qro.itesm.mx (Juan M. Courcoul)
Subject: InterSLIP configuration (A)

"Bill Carroll"  <space!wcarroll@uunet.UU.NET> writes:

>I'm having problems with my SLIP connection....
>I am able to establish a SLIP connection and I am able to 'ping' (using
>MacPing)
>various hosts but if I attempt to ftp, telnet, or send or recieve mail, the
>connection just seems to hang while an attempt is made to connect to any host
>I happen to specify...

Don't know if this might help. I had a similar problem with two IBM 9370
mainframes wired into the Internet.

It seems that the size of the packets you are sending out is too big. When
you do a ping or other transmission activity that only results in a small
packet, it gets thru without problems, but when the packets grow bigger (as
in a TELNET or FTP transaction), these get chopped up and transmission
hangs with both hosts madly retransmitting the mangled packet. The problem
stems in that one end sends packets larger than the other can process, and
the other cannot or will not indicate the fact.

Dunno if InterSLIP can be adjusted for this, but I solved the problem with
my 9370's by reducing the packet size on the configuration file (using
IBM's FAL). If you can play with this, do a trial-and-error till you obtain
the maximum packet size the link will let you get away with, so you can
maximize link throughput. Keywords like MTU, RWIN, MAXSEG and others come
to mind.

Now that I remember, I had the same gremlin pop up when I set up an
Arcnet-Ethernet IP bridge for our Novell'ers, using Phil Karn's NOS. There,
the maximum packet size turned out to be 340 bytes or so, whereas on the
9370's it was 560'ish. Later on, a cisco upgrade was installed and the
9370's were finally able to pump out at 1,500.

Juan

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 09:14:45 +0100
From: williams@tours.inra.fr (John Williams)
Subject: Is stylewriter ink waterproof (A)

NO!



John Williams

INRA Station de Recherches Avicoles, Centre de Recherches de Tours, 37380
Nouzilly, France

Tel (33) 47 42 78 47    Fax/telecopie (33) 47 42 77 78

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 12:32:39 -0600
From: courcoul@itesmcq1.qro.itesm.mx (Juan M. Courcoul)
Subject: Laserwriter 8.1.1

RICHARD LIM <RTL@siva.bristol.ac.uk> writes:

>I really don't understand what all the fuss is over the incompatibilities/
>flaws that Laserwriter 8.x has....

Neither do I ! LW 8.0 has proven to be at least 20% faster than the 7.x
family at our installation, and 8.1.1 seems to be even better. What's more,
when we recently acquired an HP LaserJet 4m with integrated Appletalk, I
was extremely satisfied to have our Macs happily printing on the machine,
using its full capabilities, just as soon as I copied the PPD file from the
manufacturer's installation diskette and ran Setup on 8.1.1. Later
inspection of the remainder of said diskette uncovered an ancient 7.0
driver and accompanying PrintMonitor that proved to be totally unnecessary.

Word of warning regarding PPD files. Many times they come with their short
(DOS?) names and LW 8.x will fail to locate the proper one. Either select
the sucker manually or rename them to the official (long) name. If you open
them with TeachText or similar text editor, you'll find the longname in a
line like:

*NickName: "Apple LaserWriter IIf v2010.130"

Happy Mac'ing !

Juan

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 12:32:42 -0600
From: courcoul@itesmcq1.qro.itesm.mx (Juan M. Courcoul)
Subject: LaserWriter NTR - Autoswitch (A)

Oops, *deep blush*. I really didn't want to send just Jim Schenk's quoted
message, honest !

Another plug for this fine printer in its category: with it's 50-sheet
"Autoselect" paper feeder, it is just great for double-sided printing. Our
IIf was giving me MAJOR aggravation when trying to print on both sides
(paper jams, smudges on the top of the sheet, etc.), but on the NTR, I
pumped close to 200 sheets, both sides, without a single hitch in one
[prolonged] sitting. Too bad Apple decided to drop it.

Anyone know where one can be had for pocos $$ ?

Thanks,

Juan

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 17:50:43 -0500
From: Colglazier <coljos@homer.bethel.edu>
Subject: LineLink 14.4


> OK, I'm not a modem guru, but I thought I could plug this puppy in to
> my fx and start communicating. I've tried it both with McKnowledge
> (self-configured) and with Zterm with no success -- even with
> McKnowledge's script for dialing up compuserve. I couldn't get any
> help from the vendor techs. Do any of you modem mavens have
> suggestions for me? Or am I SOL?

Dear Mark,

Please post to the digest your system software version (6.0.7, 7.1, etc.),
Mac model (SE, Classic, IIci, Quadra), and exact response from
zterm.  What happens when you start up Zterm (any modem lights
go on, etc)?  Try "at&c1", does the "CD" light go off?

BTW, posting system version and Mac model should be standard
information when asking a question of this type on the digest.

Joshua
coljos@homer.bethel.edu
Kalzone on 130.237.234.17 4000

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 16:52:16 -0500
From: Bienvenu Sidney J <sjb8502@usl.edu>
Subject: LineLink modem

Add my testimonial to the list of positive reviews of this product.  I
received
it Friday and by Saturday was getting hooked on downloading.

I would like to recommend that you make ZTerm your first download.
MacKnoeledge
is nice but it's hard to figure out, there's no obvious way to save the
settings for communicating or phone numbers, and it crashed frequently when
downloading.  ZTerm lets you save phone numbers and dial them from the
menubar,
and it supports ZModem, which isn't supported by MacKnowledge.

				-- Jay

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 20:52:38 -0600
From: courcoul@itesmcq1.qro.itesm.mx (Juan M. Courcoul)
Subject: List of Macs?

olive@edmmav00.us.dg.com (Rocky Olive) posted a question regarding info on
the various Mac models. When I tried replying directly, his host bounced
the mail due to various problems, so I am resending my reply to Info-Mac,
hoping it will eventually arrive, albeit indirectly, by this route.


In Info-Mac #208, you write,

>My friend (a pc user) is thinking of converting!  He asked me if I knew of a
>list of all Macs and their specs.

Try getting the MACS 1.0b4 from Sumex. Attached below is the posting header.
Enjoy,

Juan

----
>#### BINHEX     info/hdwr/the-macs-10b4.hqx   ****
>
>Date: Sun, 10 Oct 93 23:33:32 EDT
>From: "M. David Greenspon" <GREMICF@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>
>Subject: [*] the-macs-10b4.hqx
>
>the MACS is a freeware application which displays a large number of specs for
>all Macs that have ever been released.  For a more thorough description, see
>Info-Mac Digest v11-106, or the help included in the MACS.
>
>the MACS supports all Macs from the Plus up and all Systems from 4.1 up!

...rest of description deleted.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 12:32:53 -0600
From: courcoul@itesmcq1.qro.itesm.mx (Juan M. Courcoul)
Subject: LW 8 (A)

>I know that this has been asked.....is there a way to turn off the spool
>file?

Tried turning off the Background Printing option in the Chooser yet ?
Also, are you trying to print a very elaborate or long document ? 4MB seems
an awfully lot for a Postscript file.

JMC

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 10:25
From: DEVINEE@RMCNET.ROBERT-MORRIS.EDU (Devine, Emmet)
Subject: Mac linear algebra software

Hi all,

I hope that this is an appropriate place to post this question, or that
perhaps you can direct me to the proper list.  Simply, I am seeking
reviews and comments regarding linear algebra software for the Macintosh.
 Responses can be directed to me personally.

TIA

Emmet Devine
devinee@rmcnet.robert-morris.edu

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 13:32:36 -0500
From: forbes@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu (Graeme Forbes)
Subject: Mac Memory Guide (Q)

According to a recent MacWeek, the Connectix Mac Memory Guide is now in its
fifth edition, and is available in many places on-line. However, the sumex
copy (in info/harware) is an old one. If anyone has access to the fifth
edition, I and no doubt many others would be much obliged if they'd upload
it.

Graeme Forbes

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 16:39:28 EDT
From: Melinda Varian <MAINT%PUCC.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: MACSERVE is now being updated regularly

In answer to your queries about MACSERVE, we now have it pulling the
new files each night (again).  I think the problems are permanently
fixed.  Do let me know if you encounter any difficulties using this
service.

Melinda Varian

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 14:43:56 PDT
From: "Steve Eastman"   <BR.SJE%RLG@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Moving Files Remotely, How?

Subject:  Moving Files Remotely, How?

Folks:

I have a Mac Plus (2.5Mb Sys 7, LineLink 14.4e modem, MacKNOWLEDGE).  I want
to leave it turned on in some configuration so that I can, using my Internet
connection at work, have stuff sent to it.  For example:  I'm at work and I
want to have a file down loaded, so I type some command on my terminal at
work to initiate a down load from SUMEX to my Mac at home.  Is this
possible?  what software do I need?  Is there a way to make SUMEX (or any
other system) simply dial a phone number and, if there is a modem there to
connect to, send data to it?

  Steve Eastman, BR.SJE@RLG.Stanford.Edu

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 22:25:20 -0400
From: Dave Bachmann <wk01200@worldlink.com>
Subject: Myers-Briggs parlour game

> About that Myers-Briggs stack that just got uploaded to Sumex: yes! Your
> supposition was correct.  The MBTI copyright is owned by Consulting
> Psychologists Press in Palo Alto and I suspect they'd be mighty upset to
> know that their test is sitting nearby on your computer.  They put some
> restrictions on use of the test and only allow people who have some
> psychological training to buy it.  It's not meant to be a parlor game.

A study in about 1991 showed that the only thing the MBTI accurately
predicted was the mood that the subject was in while taking the test.
Whether it's meant to be a parlor game or not, that's all it's good for.

Keep the funny one, trash the copyrighted one.  We'll all be better off.

dave

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 16:49:06 +0100 (MET)
From: Jacob Palme DSV <dsv-jp@dsv.su.se>
Subject: NCSA Telnet 2.5 and control characters?

In response to the question from Dan Swatzendruber on how to
enable control characters  in NCSA Telnet, the following
quote from the Pine documentation contains the answer to your
query:

> There's a problem with the default configuration of the Macintosh version
> of NCSA telnet which prevents Control-Cs from reaching Pine.  Under the
> "session menu", select "setup keys". There's you'll see an entry for ^C.
> You should make sure it's blank. If it's not, ^C won't work in Pine.
> This will fix it just for the current session. To make it permanent
> you have to edit the configuration file. You should add a line:
>
>         localkeys=[0,19,17]  (but use curly braces instead of [])
>
> somewhere after the line that contains "name=default".  Also, on
> VersaTerm Pro a similar problem occurs where ^C causes a break to be
> sent on the modem or serial line.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 11:32:12 -0400
From: earlydh@c-17igp.wpafb.af.mil (Dwight Early)
Subject: Pesky Sound Manager 3

Fellow Digest Readers,

Ok!  Got a simple problem for you all.

I recently updated the Sound Manager on my IIcx running System 7.0.1
w/Tuneup 1.1.1.  Well, I have this frustrated problem with SM 3...it keeps
resetting itself to no sound at every restart/cold boot.

Now, I seem to remember this question being asked in the Digest.  So, I
"grep'ed" the back issues of the Digest & got 4 pages of reference.  Gave
up after 10 minutes of chasing down the references.  I had to get back to
work.

Can anybody help out this middle age boomer whose grey cells are starting to
go?

Thanks folks...

--Dwight Early

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 11:12:18 -0700
From: allan_marcus@lanl.gov (Allan Marcus)
Subject: Please Upload...

If anyone has these files, could you please upload them to Sumex.

-Phonics Fun House 1.0 (learning game)
-Quagmire (arcade game)
-Rescue 1.6 (star trek game)

Thanks,


 --------------------------------------
Allan Marcus
"My opinions are my own, I think..."

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 19:49:48 GMT
From: <B00NE@newsserver>c579283@monad.missouri.edu
Subject: Price infor for Quadra 610

Dear Mac lovers,

I am interested in buying a Mac Quadra 610, and I have got an offer for the
below configuration for US$1295

(1) 25-MHz 68040 Motorola processor and math coproc
essor,
    32-bit data bus, Page Memory Management Unit (PMMU),
    8KB cache.

(2) 8 MB RAM (exp to 68MB); 512K VRAM (Video RAM exp to
    1MB)

(3) Internal 160MB hard disk drive

(4) Build in 1.4MB apple super drive, read-write Mac, Windows,
    MS-DOS, OS/2, ProDOS disks.

(5) System software version 7.1

(6) Build in speaker, 8-bit sound system, monophonic recording (11
    or 22 kHz)

(7) NuBus adapter for Macintosh

(8) Other interfaces and networking stuffs like SCSI interface,
    built in Ethernet, serial port for AppleTalk, RS-232, etc.

(9) Limited warranty  ;)

(10) Keyboard and monitor is not included :(

Does any one of you Mac bro. and pro. has any idea what will be the fair price
for the above configuration? Or does any one has a better offer...
Please give your suggestion and opinion. Guide me to the brighter Mac world.
Your help is appreciate. Please reply to my personal account or the
corresponding news group.
	Thanx in advance.


 APPLE MADE THE MAC
 MAC MAKES THE BEST

					B00NE
				c579283@monad.missouri.edu  Macintosh

(8) Other interfaces and networking stuffs like SCSI interface,
    built in Ethernet, serial port for AppleTalk, RS-232, etc.

(9) Limited warranty  ;)

(10) Keyboard and monitor is not incl

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 14:36:07 CST
From: "Wade Williams" <williw1@mail.auburn.edu>
Subject: QuickTime Recorder?

I need to take QuickTime movies of my Mac's screen.  I do not need to
capture frames from any other source.

Because only my Mac's screen is involved, I certainly wouldn't think any
extra hardware is necessary.

Naturally, I could use something like Adobe Premiere, but that's a bit of
overkill for this.

Anyone know of any good utilities to do this?

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 14:55:00 CHT
From: pmason@chasqui.mic.cl (Patricio Mason)
Subject: regarding language translators

In issue 209 of the Digest, linguist Duncan Markham wrote of his skepticism
concerning the ability of translation software to render a competent
translation:

> Whilst I haven't seen ANY of the commercial translators in action, my
reaction
> as a linguist to claims of high power, 90% accuracy, full-sentence etc
etc on
> anything other than a limited-vocabulary translator is considerable
> scepticism.
> What do native speakers of the respective languages think of the
> translations?
> What does accuracy mean in this context -- semantic approximation, or
> generation
> of correct semantic and syntactic form?


As a profesional translator and owner of a translation company, I was
curious.  So I phoned the vendor (Globalink) and received a fax containing
some information, parts of which are quoted below:


"Power Translator Professional features:

- Translation speed of up to 20,000 + words/hour
- Bidirectional translations
- Bilingual screen option
- Bilingual manual
- Add-on Subject Dictionaries for technical, industry or
profession-specific words and phrases: create your own or buy one
ready-made from Globalink
- Alternative Translation/Synonym reference feature with pop-up window
- Pull-down menu for Alternative Translations/Synonyms from dictionary to
edit on the translation screen
- Compatible with most popular OCR software and virtually  all scanners
- User-modifiable general dictionaries of  over 250,000+ words
- Single word and semantic unit dictionaries
- Convenient User Dictionary allows recording of user modifications
- Selection of General Dictionary or Subject Dictionary from dictionary
update screen or translation screen
- Access any word processor from menu
- Accepts text file from any word processor
- Rapid, simplified dictionary update procedure, with improved interface
- Automatic morphological inflection in dictionary update
- Automatic Possible Part of Speech  feature
- Multiple translations based on part of speech
(noun/verb/adjective/adverb), further enhanced with multiple (subject
Dictionary)  capability
- On-screen linking and display of related terms
- Variable translation of prepositions
- Automatic inflection of semantic units (singular to plural, infinitive to
conjugated form)
- Preferred translation selection option
- Idiomatic expressions in Semantic Unit Dictionary
- Alphabetical browsing
- Interactive or batch translation modes
- Batch mode translation options including editor and full text modes
- On-screen editing of source of target text
- Automatic verb conjugation
- Automatic pluralization
- Flagging and reporting of unfound words/phrase for easy dictionary
update
- Increased speed of translation with longer texts
- Suspend translation feature to allow words or phrases to remain
untranslated (e.g., proper names, addresses, trademarks, etc.)
- Text entry of foreign characters from English keyboard or appropriate
foreign keyboard."


The above is verbatim from the vendor fax, which also includes claims that
thousands of Unix, OS/2 and DOS users around the world are happy with the
product.  Does anyone out there know one such user?  By the way, it seems
that this software was originally designed for use by the military --why
would an "Infantry" (sic) dictionary be already compiled and listed among
available dictionaries?

Examples of the capabilities of the program are included.  I quote them to
give native speakers an opportunity to appraise them:


"French to English:
Veulliez nous crediter du montant indique sur le releve ci-joint./Please
credit us the amount indicated on the statement enclosed.

English to French:
We enclose our quarterly bulletin listing our recent accomplishments./Vous
trouverez ci-inclus notre bulletin trimestriel enumerant nos
accomplissements recents.

English to German:
Please make sure that the goods arrive in good condition and on
time./Stellen Sie bitte sicher, dass die Guter in gutem Zustand und
punktlich ankommen.

German to English:
Sie konnen sich auf die prompte und sorgfaltige Ausfuhrung [1 wd.
illegible] Auftrags verlassen./You-They can rely on the prompt and careful
completion of your order.

English to Spanish:
Please send the goods in accordance with the enclosed instructions./Por
favor enviar las mercaderias segun las instrucciones adjuntadas.

Spanish to English:
La maquina que usted fabrica en la fabrica cumple el requerimiento./The
machine that you manufacture in the factory fulfills the requirement."


Etc.  Although I may be wrong, from these examples it would appear that the
software is intended to handle workaday material, but not anything more
complicated than billing or business letters.

Now, the business of translation is to render meaning, not words, and it is
not clear to me that this is accomplished.  Although the claims are
attractive, they of course must be taken with a pinch --or perhaps a lot--
of salt.  The US$1,195 price tag (which includes two "Subject Dictionaries"
of your choice) is steep for something which may not be that useful.  An
appraisal from an actual user might help shed some light, and I invite
fellow netters to post (or e-mail to me) anything they find on the
subject.


Regards,


Patricio Mason
ics@chasqui.mic.cl
Santiago, Chile

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 16:38:31 -0500
From: Bienvenu Sidney J <sjb8502@usl.edu>
Subject: registering signatures by E-mail

I have a bunch of signatures for programs I'm working on.  Is there an E-mail
address at Apple I can drop a line to about my signatures.

TIA.            -- Jay

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 10:27:40 PDT
From: Richard.Wolf@uic.edu (Richard K. Wolf)
Subject: Saturday Night Live McIntosh "Post-It Note" Commercial. (Q)

I doubt it, but did anyone get a chance to make a QuickTime movie of the
Saturday Night Live McIntosh "Post-It Note" commercial?  No matter how you
feel about Apple, that thing was right on the money ... and pretty darned
funny too.

Richard K. Wolf
Richard.Wolf@uic.edu
Small Systems Group
Computer Center
University of Illinois at Chicago

------------------------------

Date: 24 Oct 1993 22:25:31 U
From: "Castle, Mike" <Mike.Castle@med.umich.edu>
Subject: Scrabble on a Mac (Q)

I'm looking for a Scrabble game for the Mac.  Has anyone out there ever seen
one?  Do you know where I can find one (commercial, share, or freeware)?
Thanks!

				     << Mike >>
				     mike.castle@med.umich.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 09:27:07 +0100
From: williams@tours.inra.fr (John Williams)
Subject: SpeedyFinder7 - another conflict

	I stopped using this cp sometime ago as it was the cause of a
freeze-up that occurred when trying to print from within Excel.  Since this
*only* happened with Excel and not with other programs, it's difficult to
know which of SpeedyFinder7 or Excel are guilty of going into the dark
recesses of the Mac OS where no self-respecting creature would even dare
look.. Thing is, we *need* Excel so we dumped SpeedyFinder7 which is a bit
of a pity as two of its features are especially good:
	- eliminating the finder's rename delay
	- faster network copying
	- substituting default programs for opening TEXT and PICT and even
other file types (ex:setting Word to load when you double-click a MacWrite
file.

	Apple, why leave OS improvements to people like Aladdin and Now
software.  Competent as they are, it's surely better if the OS creator
improves the system from the ground up rather than having to rely on an
increasing number of bolt-ons?



John Williams

INRA Station de Recherches Avicoles, Centre de Recherches de Tours, 37380
Nouzilly, France

Tel (33) 47 42 78 47    Fax/telecopie (33) 47 42 77 78

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 11:23:18 +0000
From: bebb@ferndown.ate.slb.com (Malcolm Bebb)
Subject: Stylewriter II defaults

Hi All,

Can anyone here tell me how to edit the default setting on a Stylewriter II
driver to Black and White instead of Gray Scale? ResEdit Ok (but detailed
instructions please!). I'd also like to default to A4 paper size.

TIA

(and thanks again to those people who replied about the 1984 commercial)



Malcolm     bebb@ferndown.ate.slb.com  (Usual disclaimers apply)
	   mbebb@cix.compulink.co.uk

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 03:20:58
From: Ben Squire <btsquire@leland.stanford.edu>
Subject: StyleWriter II networking

I posted this question last week that I wasn't able to share my StyleWriter II
printer.

>
I have an Apple Stylewriter II connected to a Centris 650 8/230 and built in
ethernet

I'd like to be able to share my printer over the net, but when I try to
activate
the print share option in the chooser, I get an dialog box telling me that
there
is not enough memory and I should quit applications.  I get this same message
with all applications closed, even after restart.  Even after disabling all my
extentions.  I was able to share my printer once, the first time I ever tried
it, but the next time I started up my computer I had this problem.  After I
reinstalled the printer software, I was able to share the printer but the next
time I turned on my computer the problem returned.  So if I reinstall the
printer software each time I use my computer, it will work, but that's not any
fun.  I guess this is a problem with the printer software since it hasn't been
updated since the Stylewriter II first came out.  Or is there an update of the
Stylewriter driver that I don't know about?

I would appreciate any suggestions or comments.

Thank you in advance.

Ben Squire <btsquire@leland.stanford.edu>

 -------------------------------------------------------------


Since then, I found a solution.  First I upgraded my printer driver to
StyleWriterII v1.2. This did not solve my sharing problem.  Then I upgraded to
PrinterShare 1.1.  This solved my problem.  If there are even more recent
versions of either of these, I would like to know.  Please E-mail me or send
me
a copy.

I was rather miffed that the new printer driver wasn't on the Apple FTP
server.
What's up with that?

Thanks to all those who mailed in suggestions.  I hope this information will
be
able to help someone in the pursuit printer sharing.

Any questions pertaining to this, don't hesitate to contact me.

Ben Squire <btsquire@leland.stanford.edu>

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 01:43:39 -0600 (CDT)
From: wrr3118@tamuts.tamu.edu (William Richard Jr Russell)
Subject: Text file pager for Mac (Q)

I just found myself in need of something useful, and since I can't
think of what program will do what I want, I thought I would ask the
net.


I just got a _lot_ of almost-plain-text ascii material on CD-ROM that
I would like to read. I could print some of it out, but given that the
text consists of a half-dozen science fiction novels and related
materials, printing becomes a time consuming and expensive
proposition.

What I need is a simple pager program, like 'more', 'most' and 'less'
on UNIX systems. While there are plenty of fine programs for _editing_
text, there are none (that I know of) for simply viewing and reading
text. Optimally, the pager/viewer would have a few useful features:

 - A user-defined "page key" that advances the text exactly one page
   forward. When reading a large amount of material, there's no reason
   to take the time or effort to use the mouse.

 - User-settable font and style (so text can be set to large & bold
   for easy viewing).

 - Optionally, it should be able to interpret the standard ASCII
   printer control characters... newpage (^L), backspace (^H),
   etc the way 'less' does.

 - Optionally, it should also automatically recognize and properly
   format non-Mac newline characters, ^J for UNIX and ^J^M for DOS.

 - An RTF interpreter would be nice too... but perhaps I ask for
   too much :-)

Does such a beast exist? If so, just tell me about it an I'll shut up :-)

I will, of course, forward my findings to the net.

Rick Russell
rick-russell@tamu.edu

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 17:50:58 -0500
From: Colglazier <coljos@homer.bethel.edu>
Subject: Time tracking/billing response


> * Track account and files data. (Invoices are sent to accounts; a
> single account may have many files.)
>
> * Track agents working on files individually and allow variable
> billing rates (e.g., the same agent might charge $150 an hour on one
> file, but $90 an hour on another).
>
> * Track all activity related to the generation of invoices, including
> time worked on files (whether you bill the files by time, flat-fee,
> or on contingency); expenses to be billed to the account; flat fees
> for services; and payments made. Hourly activity is tracked in tenths
> of an hour. Expenses can be kept as individual records (e.g., each
> photocopying project is itemized on the invoice) or as batch items
> (e.g., you keep track of each postage expense individually but list
> "postage" on the invoice as a single total figure).

Thanks VERY much for your professional, detailed response.  It sounds
like LAW.IN.ORDER could be the object of my quest.  I appreciate your
help.  I will post my review of LAW.IN.ORDER to the digest if others
express interest via e-mail to me.

Joshua
coljos@homer.bethel.edu
"Kalzone" on 130.237.234.17 4000

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 17:50:50 -0500
From: Colglazier <coljos@homer.bethel.edu>
Subject: Time tracking response


> Hi, Joshua. I'm just curious what *you* find difficult about
> Timeslips? We use TimeSlips for our consulting firm of +/- 40 people,
> and though we find it pretty easy to use on a day to day basis, it
> was a bitch to set up and understand at first.
>
> Unfortunately, it also has some basic features (like that business
> with everyone needing to be logged off before you can do anything of
> consequence) that are infuriating. Trashing TS Locks, for example, is
> apparently the solution for every problem according to their support
> people.
>
> We scoured the extant Mac world, searching for a decent time tracker
> and that was all we came up with. If you do better, I'd love to hear!
> In the meantime, feel free to use me as a shoulder to whine on. ;-)

Thanks to the following for their responses:

merlin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu
kee@aol.com
GRAHAM@INTELLICORP
WMPORTER@Jetson.UH.EDU
antoinem@indy.knoware.nl

I'm currently examining BestBooks from M.Y.O.B., available through
MacConnection for $55, LAW.IN.ORDER using Filemaker Pro 2.0 from Classic
Innovations available directly from wmporter@jetson.uh.edu for $75 (+the
cost of Filemaker Pro 2.0 if you don't already have it), and am trying
to track down two shareware suggestions: LogMaster and Julia Timer.  I
will post a summary to the Net if someone e-mails me to tell that
they're interested.
Joshua
coljos@homer.bethel.edu
Kalzone on 130.237.234.17 4000

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 06:13:42 PDT
From: Tim D. Castle <castlet@eltsac.mtv.gtegsc.com>
Subject: Translating Apple II files/diskettes

Yo and avast, gentlepersons,

     I've got a couple of people who need to get some text files from their
     old
Apple II 5.25" diskettes onto the Mac. We've got an Apple 5.25" drive, but I
think it's for PC diskettes only. Is there any way of reading these monsters?
Also, where can I find the Apple File Exchange translators for
ProDOS/AppleDOS,
etc.?
     Please reply directly to me. I'm pulling out what's left of my hair!

Tim Castle       castlet@eltsac.mtv.gtegsc.com
End-User Computing, GTE Gov't Systems, Mountain View, CA

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 12:26 EDT
From: RICH FRIEDMAN <FRIEDMAN@mbcl.rutgers.edu>
Subject: TT Palatino font

My hard drive recently died and I lost my TT palantino font file.  I guess
I thought that it was in the TT disk that came with my computer or in one
of the libraries that I had.  Anyway, does someone have a copy of the font
that they can send me.

Thanks
Rich
Friedman@mbcl.rutgers.edu

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 12:56:28 EDT
From: stngiam@MIT.EDU
Subject: Typesetting

>TeX and its later modifications ain't exactly the easiest things to learn.
>Admittedly, once you learn them, you don't want anything else.
>But, until you learn how to use, say LaTeX, you might lose
>either hair or sleep.

  My real objection to TeX, at least on MIT's Athena system is the lack
of font flexibility.  I really don't like the default TeX font (Computer
Modern Roman ?), and xdvi doesn't preview postscript fonts very well.
Do the Mac TeX implementations have better font support?

Shih Tung
Chem E
Best l'il Tech School
on the Charles





------------------------------

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 08:52 GMT
From: ajcarr%ccvax.ucd.ie@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU (Dr Alun J. Carr)
Subject: Typesetting (C)

In Info-Mac V11 #209, Pete Jemian writes:

>Come on now, aren't you whistlin Dixie here?
>TeX and its later modifications ain't exactly the easiest things to learn.
>Admittedly, once you learn them, you don't want anything else.
>But, until you learn how to use, say LaTeX, you might lose
>either hair or sleep.  I agree though. In comparison, the other stuff
>is junior league.

I've had a little chat with Pete in private, and we seem to agree that for
producing technical documents of the finest quality, TeX/LaTeX is your only
man (as they say over here in Dublin*). _I_ think that if you use the Alpha
editor (25 US dollars shareware), LaTeX becomes as easy to use as
Microsloth Word (and a sight more bug-free), but I'm not 100% sure that
Pete agrees with me on this point. One thing I feel you _do_ need is
processing power (at least an LCIII class machine) to make the system
reasonably interactive (but then that's true of Word 5.1, as well).

Alun

* For a fine example of the use of this phrase, see `At Swim-Two-Birds' by
Flann O'Brien---especially the famous poem (I think it's called `The
Working Man's Lament') which contains the reprise `A Pint of Plain is Your
Only Man'.

A. J. Carr, Mech. Eng. Dept., UCD, Belfield, Dublin 4, Ireland
Internet: ajcarr@ccvax.ucd.ie

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 12:33:01 -0600
From: courcoul@itesmcq1.qro.itesm.mx (Juan M. Courcoul)
Subject: Unethical Computers

Flamefest prelude warning: don asbestos suits immediately.

"Jeffrey N. Fritz" <JFRITZ%WVNVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU> writes:

>The word from our West Virginia Attorney General is that it is
>"unethical" for faculty or staff to purchase computers directly
>>From the Computer Store on campus at reduced prices.  Students,
>however, can still purchase at discounts.  This, of course, ends
>a very nice perk--and something that I feel benefited everyone.

Sheesh, what a silly idea. Is he getting a kickback from the other dealers,
or what ? Or is it now the job of an Attorney General to ensure that
profits don't get eroded (as if the industry, with declared profit margins
of 28% or more, needed the protection)? Is "unethical" tatamount to
"illegal" ? Ethics be damned if by doing such an act you are going to
improve the quality (and probably the quantity) of your work, and thus
improve the quality of teaching. No wonder Bill Gates grins all the way to
the bank...

Over here in "backwards" and "Third World" Mexico, in our case, our
wholesale Apple importer offers teachers & staff a 15% discount, whereas
the students only get 10%.

JMC

------------------------------

Date: 26 Oct 1993 01:52:15 GMT
From: apatel@herbie.unl.edu (AMAR PATEL)
Subject: What is a "Bad F-Line Error"

Hi

Does anyone out there know what a "Bad F-Line Instruction" is, and what can
be doen to rid of it. All I know is that it is a bomb message (error
message) and it occurs randomly. If you have any suggestions, I would
appreciate it if you would let me know at:

			apatel@ccmail.unl.edu


Thank you

AMAR PATEL
Computer Consultant
University of Nebraska - Lincoln
apatel@ccmail.unl.edu
apatel@herbie.unl.edu

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 20:49:15 -0700
From: tonya@tidbits.com (Tonya Engst)
Subject: Why fonts don't print in PageMaker

Patrick Golden asks about printing TrueType fonts from PageMaker 4.01:


>We are running PageMaker 4.01 under System 7.0.1.  When it had
>been running under 6.x.x we had no problems selecting and
>printing designated fonts.  Since converting over to 7.0.1,
>certain fonts won't print.
>
>We bought some new TrueType fonts from FontBank hoping this
>would work.  But when we designate certain text in these fonts
>and try to print, they default to Courier.  The same fonts
>print fine in Word 5.1 documents.

According Macworld Macintosh Secrets, you need PageMaker 4.2 or newer to
print TrueType fonts; without 4.2, PageMaker prints Courier. I haven't
tried it myself, though.

Cheers, Tonya

Tonya Engst, TidBITS Editor -- tonya@tidbits.com --info@tidbits.com
My opinions are not necessarily those of my employer, Microsoft

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 22:21:53 EDT
From: tdh@dweebus.telemax.com (Thomas D. Halter)
Subject: WordPerfect 3.0 vs. Word 5.1

I see that Mac's Place is offering extremely competitive sidegrade
pricing for WordPerfect 3.0.  I am a current user of Word 5.1, and
would like to hear from users of WP 3.0, especially former MS-Word
users.  My primary questions with WP 3.0 are as follows:

How does it perform?  Word, as I have commented here before, is a
sloth.  If WP is a decent performer, I would consider switching for
this reason alone.

Is it file format compatible with the Windows and DOS versions of
WordPerfect?  Word has always made this claim, but has always fallen
down in this regard.

Does it read and write MS-Word and other popular formats?  I am looking
for as painless a switch as possible?

As usual, sufficient response will warrant a summary to the net.

-
Tom Halter
tdh@dweebus.telemax.com
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is
 indistinguishable from a rigged demo."

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 20:47:25 -0700
From: tonya@tidbits.com (Tonya Engst)
Subject: Word watermark

Andy Scheck wrote in asking about creating a "watermark" in Word 5.1 as
follows:


>Is there a way in Microsoft Word 5.1 to do a "water mark" (I think that's
>what it's called), having the word "Draft" in huge, light gray letters and
>positioned diagonally across every page and having the document text (and
>everything else) run over top of it?
>
>There used to be a way (via a bug probably) under MS Word 4 that involved a
>couple of sequential "positions" or "frames" around different objects and
>then deleting one of them which made the other frame keep its position but
>Word would forget to wrap around it. I can't seem to come up with the correct
>combination to make this happen--and if it was a bug, it may have been
fixed.
>
>I know that putting the appropriate PostScript code in the header will make a
>printed version work, but I'd like to see it on the screen.

What I think Andy is talking about is using the Frame command (known in
Word 4 as Postion). Usually, when you frame a paragraph in Word
(Insert/Frame), Word places a "frame" around the paragraph, and then you
can use Print Preview to drag the frame about or adjust the frame using
Format/Frame.The framed paragraph moves along with the frame as you move
the frame around. Got that? :-)

Word wraps non-framed text around framed paragraphs, and this (though
clumsy) works reasonably well for, say, wacking a graphic in the middle of
the page and having text wrap around it.

You can position multiple frames so that their locations overlap. Frames
cannot wrap around one another, so - in theory - they should overlap. In
practice, Word gives mixed and sometimes inexplicable results when you
overlap frames. I certainly wouldn't count on it working in any sort of
time-sensitive situation.

So, if you want text to overlap some item in Word (4 or 5), you can stick
the item in the header and set the top margin (Format/Document) to an exact
measurement (you have to set it to exact so that the header doesn't push
the text down too far). In Word 5, you can choose exact from a popdown
menu; in Word 4, you enter a negative number in the top margin box, say -1
for "exactly one inch." You can then stick postscript code in the header to
print a largish, grayed out DRAFT (or whatever text you desire) or you can
put a graphic (or a large, bordered, table cell to make a full-page border)
or what have you in the header. Word (like most Mac programs :-)) can't do
display PostScript, so if you  use the PostScript code method - as Andy
notes - you can't see the result of the code until you print to a
PostScript printer. If you use non-PostScript code - a graphic of some sort
perhaps - you are likely to see a decent representation in Print Preview,
though not normal or page layout view.

Conclusion? For Andy (or anyone like Andy) to solve the problem, you can
either:

1. Use a different program...
2. Consider making a graphic having the word DRAFT and placing that in the
header.
3. Experiment with frames, but prepare for frustration.

Finally, if anyone does know of a neat way to make the frames behave as
Andy describes, I'd love to know about it.

Cheers, Tonya

Tonya Engst, TidBITS Editor -- tonya@tidbits.com --info@tidbits.com
My opinions are not necessarily those of my employer, Microsoft

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